Innocence

“The return of innocence isn’t the end of pain. Pain reveals depths of real knowledge. In that way pain heals you. It connects you with what you know.”

John de Ruiter, The Return to Innocence

The cost of Awakening

In this very intimate radio interview, John de Ruiter speaks about:

  • the high cost of Awakening
  • self-enhancing awakening experiences and self-annihilating Realization
  • Needing to secure Awakening for yourself and in yourself is the mechanism that’s in the way

The interviewer shares her own experience and asks good questions. This is the second part of a two part interview:

 

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